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Jon Bon Jovi’s letter to Buffalo Bills fans appears to have made matters worse for the rock star’s prospects for becoming the National Football League team’s next owner.

Fans, public-relations analysts and pundits ridiculed Bon Jovi’s attempt to deflect criticism of him as a carpetbagger who would move the Bills to Toronto. Sources close to other prospective ownership groups have told The Buffalo News they were thrilled to see the letter, largely viewed as crisis-mode desperation to generate support.

On top of all that, Bon Jovi’s letter might have violated terms of the nondisclosure agreement he signed with the Bills.

In fact, the only bidders who apparently have not breached the nondisclosure agreement so far are Buffalo Sabres owner Terry Pegula and his wife, Kim.

The Buffalo News has obtained a copy of the confidential nondisclosure agreement distributed by the Ralph C. Wilson Jr. Irrevocable Trust to prospective buyers. The document gives insight into the sales process and helps explain why there were only three known nonbinding initial bids submitted last Tuesday.

About 60 interested parties requested the nondisclosure agreement, a necessary first step to ensure confidentiality before reviewing the Bills’ financial information and entering a bid. But only 15 or so signed and returned them because of language that experienced businessmen and attorneys describe as restrictive and onerous.

Three sources who received the document from the Bills’ trust and an attorney familiar with sports-team transactions told The News the nondisclosure terms have had a chilling effect on the number of bids and likely has impacted former Bills quarterback Jim Kelly’s ability to get involved with a group.

“It’s not unprecedented,” said one knowledgeable source who reviewed the document. “But on a scale of one to 10, I would put the language in there at a 10 in terms of being ultra-restrictive.”

The terms that Bon Jovi might have breached, however, are standard.

Atop the second page of the six-page agreement, it’s stated that without prior written consent, no one who signs it may “disclose to any person (other than your representatives) that the confidential information has been made available to you or your representatives, this agreement exists or the terms hereof, you are considering the transaction or any other possible transaction with the company, or that discussions or negotiations have taken or are taking place concerning the transaction.”

Bon Jovi and billionaire developer Donald Trump, believed to be the only bidders aside from the Pegulas to date, have publicly declared they are “considering the transaction” since the non-disclosure agreements were signed.

B. Thomas Golisano, who sold the Sabres to Terry Pegula, declared his interest in the Bills before the nondisclosure agreements went out. It is not known whether Golisano has made a bid, but sources close to the billionaire Paychex founder have insisted he remains in the mix.

Ramifications for confidentiality breaches are not spelled out within the document.

Bon Jovi and Trump likely wouldn’t be eliminated from the sales process or penalized by the trust’s advisers – financial firm Morgan Stanley and legal firm Proskauer Rose – because there was no financial harm to the Bills.

But violations could alienate Bon Jovi and Trump from the Bills and the NFL.

The Pegulas, meanwhile, have been careful not to make any public missteps.

Trump told Fox News on camera last week he would submit the non-binding initial bid.

NBC Sports announcer Al Michaels reported during Sunday night’s Pro Football Hall of Fame Game between the Bills and New York Giants that Trump “offered $1 billion, all cash, no contingencies, immediate closing.”

“He’d have the check in one hour,” Michaels added. “He was a little miffed that it went out for bid again.”

Bon Jovi, in his letter to Bills fans, confirmed for the first time he was part an ownership group that wanted to buy the team.

“If we are given the chance to be the next owners of the Buffalo Bills,” Bon Jovi wrote, “I promise you that we will bring the same passion that you do every Sunday, every day.”

Bon Jovi also wrote his group is committed to work with local and state officials, hopefully to build a “state-of-the-art NFL stadium for the loyal Bills fans” and “to spend as much time on the ground in Buffalo as needed” to field a winning team.

Morgan Stanley spokeswoman Mary Claire Delaney declined to comment on possible non-disclosure violations.

Language in the nondisclosure agreement also spells out with whom prospective bidders are allowed to communicate and do business as they formulate a bid.

The agreement prevents possible buyers from sharing such confidential Bills information as financial statements, sales data, budgets and studies “with any other person, including other potential bidders and equity or debt financing sources ... regarding a possible transaction” with the Bills.

Not being allowed to communicate with “other potential bidders” prevents suitors from discussing even the possibility of joining forces to buy the team. Anyone interested in approaching as a minority owner would have to be rebuffed.

Kelly began speaking with prospective buyers about partnerships shortly after Bills founder Ralph C. Wilson Jr. died in March. But Kelly couldn’t talk to anyone who signed a nondisclosure agreement about the Bills. Nor would he be able to talk if he signed one unless granted permission.

Not being allowed to communicate with “equity or debt financing sources” stops candidates from sharing critical information with a bank for, say, a loan to buy the team.

One source who has brokered sales and purchases of sports teams in multiple leagues told The News this clause significantly limits the number of legitimate bidders to those who likely have the cash on hand to purchase the Bills on their own.

Another clause that has frustrated some in the process is a provision that forbids any contact or communication “with any executive, employee or representative of any of the trust, the company or the NFL concerning the transaction.”

That would include NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell, Bills President Russ Brandon or, technically, Kelly, who is employed as a Bills ambassador.
Meanwhile, Sen. Charles E. Schumer, D.-N.Y., who was in the Buffalo area Monday, said  he his “still very optimistic” that the Bills will stay in Western New York and said he thinks a local bidder would have a greater commitment to keeping the team in town.

“All things being equal, I would prefer bidders from Western New York, because they’re committed to the area,” Schumer said during a news conference in Amherst. “But whoever bids, we’ve got to make sure it’s an iron-clad commitment.”

He declined to comment on the Bon Jovi letter.

“I’m still very optimistic that we can keep the Bills in Buffalo,” he said. “Not for seven years. Not for 10 years, but for generations, and the league understands the importance, I think, of keeping them in Buffalo.”

News Staff Reporter Denise Jewell Gee contributed to this report.

  • doowire

    Buffalo News staff must be crapping in their pants. They seem to put a spin on the truth. Buffalo bills are moving to toronto and Bon Jovi group will be the new owners and you guys will having nothing to write about in 2019 other then shooting and house fires in the city. GO torontobills

    • Dan P

      #InPegulaWeTrust

    • Darlene Makowski Lelonek

      I haven't heard of one "fan" in Toronto (other than yourself obviously) who is interested in seeing a NFL team in Toronto. Guess you want another team to watch get run into the ground and into obscurity. And I didn't realize that Toronto is the only city in the world that doesn't have shootings and house fires.

    • drewdistilled

      You need to step up your troll game. Nice attempt though.

    • Nuke

      Shootings and housefires? Sounds like a Leafs game...

    • Regan Flint

      lol...can I buy what you are smoking...???

    • Polish Prince

      Why don't you go post on the Hamilton Gazette you hoser, eh!

  • BullGuy

    Another clause that has frustrated some in the process is a provision that forbids any contact or communication "with any executive, employee or representative of any of the trust, the company or the NFL concerning the transaction."

    Interesting in the Bon Jovi met with Goodell a couple of months ago for lunch. I wonder what that conversation was all about.

    I hope that Bon Jovi has shot himself in the foot over his big mouth.

    • WeAreTheNormal

      Don't you mean, "Shot Through the Heart"?

      • BullGuy

        I was going that way but thought it was too obvious.

    • Regan Flint

      JBJ , partners also shot themselves in the foot by having those failed BILLS games in Toronto. MLSE [Rogers] have been talking about buying the BILLS and moving them to Toronto for a decade in the Canadian press. Now they are lying to get the BILLS. The good thing is , is no one believes JBJ and his group. MLSE doesn't care about the city of Buffalo , BILLS fans or CFL fans in their own country. They how no moral center or any class at all. This is about ego and greed.

  • Darlene Makowski Lelonek

    Bon Jovi had lunch/dinner w/Goodell a few weeks ago & was in Canton this past weekend supposedly "due to the sale of the Bills". We're told repeatedly by Jerry Jones/ESPN media & now HOF Prez that he's such a smart businessman. Seems pretty stupid to me if he's constantly breeching the confidentiality agreement. Tell him to buy a CFL team.

    • Jester

      Morgan Stanley extended the bidding time indefinitely , because they were expecting over 60 bids, and so far have gotten 3 bids. Banks only do that when they aren't getting enough offers

  • Darlene Makowski Lelonek

    Bon Jovi had lunch/dinner w/Goodell a few weeks ago & was in Canton this past weekend supposedly "due to the sale of the Bills". We're told repeatedly by Jerry Jones/ESPN media & now HOF Prez that he's such a smart businessman. Seems pretty stupid to me if he's constantly breeching the confidentiality agreement. Tell him to buy a CFL team.

  • Guest

    Make no mistake that If all things were equal, our currencies being equal is one of them, which it pretty much is, the NFL would rather have the Bills in Toronto. Jerry Jones has made it clear that small market teams, except for Green bay, do not earn their fair share of the NFL pie. He isn't the only owner who thinks this.

    • Darlene Makowski Lelonek

      Then let them (NFL owners) put an expansion team there. Buffalo may be a small market but has a better, more loyal fan base than a 1/3 of the league. Just look at all the Bills fans at Canton this weekend. Reported 70% of the crowd. They were all decked out in Bills merchandise...making the NFL money. Meanwhile teams like Jacksonville & Miami have to block out seats so they can say they "sell out".

    • Darlene Makowski Lelonek

      Then let them (NFL owners) put an expansion team there. Buffalo may be a small market but has a better, more loyal fan base than a 1/3 of the league. Just look at all the Bills fans at Canton this weekend. Reported 70% of the crowd. They were all decked out in Bills merchandise...making the NFL money. Meanwhile teams like Jacksonville & Miami have to block out seats so they can say they "sell out".

    • B H

      The US dollar is now worth $1.09 in funny money with it loonie expected to continue to fall......wouldn't be long and our dollar will be worth $1.50 in loonies as it was not so far in the past. Then you girls wouldn't even be able to afford a ticket in Buffalo........but there's always those boring hockey games you cling onto....LOL

    • Jester

      Small market does not mean anything about population, It is used to describe the size of the television audience for each game. Just like buffalo is a small market in TV stations.

      • unannannan

        They are a small market team. They have been loooooooosers for a long time. Any place with a TV does not have their game on unless you are in WNY. No one but die hard bills fans care.

        • William Kyriakakos

          so why are you even posting here?

          • unannannan

            answered way up above...when you asked me the first time.

    • Jester

      Small market does not mean anything about population, It is used to describe the size of the television audience for each game. Just like buffalo is a small market in TV stations.

  • Austin Hood

    This is all theater of the grandest style with both Bon Jovi and Donald Trump strutting their stuff on the stage of this ballgame.

    The fact of the matter is, "Money Talks and Smoke and Mirrors walk."

    At the end of the day it will be the guy with the largest bank accounting willing to meet the terms of the Bills Trust.

    My personal favorite in this horserace is Pegula. He's keeping to himself. Not releasing any press releases, which means he's free to do some serious negotiations behind the scenes.

    • Thomas Errico

      The Bills rank 20th in terms of revenue for all teams in the NFL. So there's 12 other teams that do not earn as much money as they do for the league. Your point is invalid. Please try again.

      • B H

        Since the NFL never discloses what any team makes it's total speculation on the Bills being ranked 20th in terms of revenue.

        However, I will say that all the time Ralph Wilson was always crying poverty being a small market team, he never once mentioned he didn't have a mortgage on the franchise unlike most other NFL owners.

      • Austin Hood

        The Bills are not 20th in revenue. They are way more profitable than that. Your point is invalid. Please check your numbers and make your call again.

        • Paul Bruhns

          godalmighty... revenue and profit are two different things. it's amazing how people spew BS and act as though they "know" what they're talking about.

          • Austin Hood

            Don't be so naive. Profit is what you are left with after the smoke clears. Those the important numbers. Wake up and smell the coffee.

            Revenue doesn't mean a darn thing. It's what you are left with after the smoke clears that is important.

            And, the Buffalo Bills Profits are quite handsome. Otherwise Ralph Wilson wouldn't have hung on to the team for as long as he did.

          • Paul Bruhns

            you're a half wit... you said 20th in revenue as if that makes them profitable. you need a course in finance, Austin. Quit being an expert in things you don't understand for crying out loud.

          • Austin Hood

            No, you are the half-wit. I said they are way more profitable, not 20th in revenue as YOU stated.

            You need the course in finance. The Buffalo Bills are a very profitable football team. And, I defend Profitable for those who need a class in economics 101 as the amount of money present after all expenses are taken out.

            Further, calling someone a half-wit is in clear cut violation of the Disqus rules of commenting.

          • Paul Bruhns

            I have to admit.. for the sake of accuracy, that I erroneously attributed the "20th in revenue" remark to you. I see I was wrong. The reasons for, and to what extent The Bills are profitable have nothing (figuratively speaking) to do with their relative NFL revenue ranking, and that's where we agree. Rather than go on a treatise of NOI/ profit and it's attributes, I'll leave it at that. Here's one for you: since the Bills are not publicly traded, and I assume you didn't read and sign the non-disclosure agreement... you are just a speculator, wouldn't you agree?

          • Austin Hood

            Forget the $250 million in revenue the NFL team generated during 2013. And forget the $38 million the Bills posted in operating income (earnings before interest, taxes depreciation and amortization) last season. I say toss out those two numbers-even though NFL team transaction prices are largely based on multiples of revenue and operating income.

            Here is the key number for the groups bidding for the team: $80 million. That is the amount by which the NFL is expected to increase league revenue that it gives to its 32 teams from national media (Fox , NBC, ESPN , CBS CBS -0.69%, DirecTV) and licensing deals over the next four years. During the 2013 season that figure was $170 million per team (slightly less than 60% of the league’s total revenue).

      • Polish Prince

        Plus all TV revenue is shared equally by all 32 teams.
        They split $6 Billion in TV revenue for 2013, or $187,500,000.00 for each of the 32 owners. Also, the visiting team gets 40% of ticket sales for each game. A smart business plan. Everyone gets rich and they all stick together.

        The real source of extra money is in team merchandise sales for each individual owner.

  • Keith Szczygiel

    Since the Bill's are subsidized by Erie county tax payers shouldn't they be forced to share their financial information? Why do we get to pay for a stadium for a team worth at least $1 billion in private money and not have transparency on what their worth and who might be purchasing them?

    • B H

      Welcome to the "NFL WORLD" where it's been said many times they have a license to print money. And with all that money they have purchased ALL the politicians that represent us.

    • zbubble

      The Bills don't own the stadium, Erie County does. The Bills lease the stadium from the County. The Bills may be the beneficiaries of the work being done on the stadium, but your tax dollars aren't subsidizing them. Your tax dollars were spent on a facility the County owns.

      • B H

        The stadium in OP and the field house in OP are both used EXCLUSIVELY by da Bills. They pay NOTHING for the use of them. The county pays all the maintenance bills and utility bills. The county also supplies traffic control and security FREE of charge during all Buffalo Bills events.

        Now how does that grab you for your tax dollars being used for da Bills. If that is not subsidizing them, then PLEASE explain what would be ! ! !

        • zbubble

          "The stadium in OP and the field house in OP are both used EXCLUSIVELY by da Bills."

          Not entirely true. Every year the Section VI High School football championships are played there, and last year and this year, a UB Bulls game. I'll give you it's not a lot of alternatives, but it's not exclusive either.

          "They pay NOTHING for the use of them."

          They do pay for the use of them. The Bills pay the County $800,000 annually to lease the stadium. You can look it up, it's in the lease and the lease is online.

          "The county pays all the maintenance bills and utility bills. The county also supplies traffic control and security FREE of charge during all Buffalo Bills events."

          Why would the Bills pay for maintenance when the County owns the stadium? That would be like you renting an apartment and the water tank exploding and your landlord telling you that you need to pay for it. Some people who rent apartments have certain utilities included.

          "Now how does that grab you for your tax dollars being used for da Bills. If that is not subsidizing them, then PLEASE explain what would be ! ! !"

          How does it grab me? I go to games so hopefully I'll enjoy some of the improvements being made to the stadium. So I get a little return on the investment, so to say.

          But it's not subsidizing them. Subsidizing means financially supporting the team by giving money directly to them. Not by giving money to something they do not own, and for which they legally pay $800,000 each year to use.

          • Rollo Tomasei

            Well put!.Too many on these posts who don't know the facts,and relate with histrionic posts

          • B H

            Look it up....YOU provided the number....now you provide the proof......until then it's only HEARSAY by another blind Bills fan.

            And you are a typical Bills fan......anything to keep da Bills in Buffalo is OK with you....How about we start building Walmart stores so they don't have to dip into their deep pockets either. Lot of people here like Walmart and I'll bet more go there than a Bills Sunday Beating.

            I'm sure you're one of many drunks there tailgating hard so you can endure another good beating by the visiting team.

          • zbubble

            What are you, angry that you've been exposed a crazy lying ranter? So here ya go, all the proof you need, it's under Section V. Letter J., $800,000 annual rent, here's a link to a reputable news source:

            http://roc.democratandchronicle.com/assets/pdf/A21984671221.pdf

            Yada yada crazy talk... Walmart... more crazy talk... lies... insults....
            I truly hope you find happiness in life someday, for your benefit.

          • B H

            Thanks, you took the bait, hook, line and sinker....SUCKER

            [The Bills shall pay a base rent of $800,000 on an annual basis. Such rent, when paid, shall be credited to the Bills’ portion of the Annual Capital Improvement Allowance.]

            This means that the county never sees ONE DIME of this money buddy boy ! ! !

            [K. Substantially similar to past practices, the Bills shall have exclusive control over advertising rights at the Stadium and Stadium Complex; provided, however, that the Bills shall not be required to solicit or obtain County approval for existing or future advertising signage at the Stadium.]

            Again, more control of our stadium by the Bills......

            I hope you find happiness in your drunken stupper state while watch this team take another Sunday beating, again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again.....L O S E R ! ! ! ! !

          • unannannan

            It just like the casino money that was gonna fix WNY....that was our leaderships big deal. They were gonna get 10% of the states 50% that was getting 1%...which amounted to nothing...lol. BTW....did they ever get any money from that whole deal. Because that was gonna fix everything in 2 years. And how about the new peace bridge....ho long as that been going on? That crap started before I left for the army.

          • zbubble

            No you daft moron, it means the county sees 80,000 dimes. And it means the Bills are credited for $800,000 towards their contribution to the capital improvement fund. Surely you can understand that if I give you a dollar, and in turn you issue a credit to me in that same dollar amount for something else, that I still gave you a dollar? Well maybe you can't.

            By the way, I'm laughing my butt off about the drunk comments. I haven't had a drink in years. I don't need one to enjoy watching football. But feel free to keep on going with your irrational generalizations and stereotypes, it's making you look uber smart.

          • B H

            Just keep on taking the bait.....SUCKER BOY..

            Now do you want to explain this part of the lease agreement...

            [The Game Day Expense Reimbursements will be up to $1,818,000 for the 2013 lease year and will be adjusted annually thereafter as per the formula for that reimbursement in the 2013 Stadium Lease. The Bills will only be eligible for Game Day Expense Reimbursements for games played at the Stadium.]

          • Stephen Karnath

            I've read the lease in its entirety, analyzed in a long post a couple of years ago. I'm a season ticket holder for 28 years. I want the Bills to stay. But we as taxpayers are subsidizing them. The $800,000 is less than 8% of what we pay the Bills under 5 different sections of the lease. And I'm not even counting the cost to the county for all the Sheriff patrols. What's so wrong about admitting that we're subsidizing them? Unfortunately, it's part of the cost of having a team, especially in a small market with "relatively" low ticket prices.

      • Keith Szczygiel

        I'm using the word subsidize loosely but BH is correct. Funny how the state can find 100's of millions to contribute to a stadium that has the sole purpose of housing a privately owned company worth over a billion dollars but when it comes to things like infrastructure and schools there's just not enough to go around.

        • zbubble

          If you were being rhetorical in your question about forcing them to share financial information, then I'm sorry I took it literally. I just wanted to point out legally, no money is going to the Bills income revenue stream.

          But your comment about infrastructure and schools is interesting. I would like to point out that $130 Million in renovations to the stadium over 10 years is approx. 13 mil a year. The state budget is 138 BILLION for 2014-2015. I'm not double checking my math, but I think that works out to .009% of the budget for next year. Less than one hundredth of one percent.

          Meanwhile, next year's state budget has an 807 million dollar INCREASE (not total, but increase over last year's budget) in education for next year alone.

          I don't think these 13 million dollar per year renovations are directly preventing anything else in the state from getting money they need.

          • Keith Szczygiel

            You don't honestly think $13 million a year wouldn't be helpful in Buffalo, or surrounding schools? And that figure is only for basic upgrades, not a whole new stadium which seems to be on the horizon. And though the money spent by the county might be indirect it still serves the purpose of benefiting a private company. It takes a lot of public resources to house a stadium that holds 80,000.00 people (more for a new stadium) and like it or not that cost is absorbed by us which contributes to the bottom line for the Bills.

            It seems many people get all up in arms over tax breaks for EXPANDING companies like Delaware North but if it's for da Bills then forget about it do what it takes...

  • Doug Sobilo

    I love people that get on here with no knowledge of the situation and talk about what league leaders are thinking. Pegula liquidated 2 Billion dollars in assets right before bidding began. That means he could cut a check for 2 Billion cash not not blink over it. In addition; the NFL prefers single owners who have liquidatable assets and who haven't already ran one league into the ground(USFL). Given this info that would eliminate both Trump and Jovi. So while all of you "financial experts" get on here and pretend to know what everybody is up to and thinking....know all the facts!

    • Jester

      The NFL changed the rules to prevent INVESTMENT funds from buying teams. Not groups like the Rogers group. The NFL prefers WHO would help the league make more money, plain and simple. That's why Rush was stonewalled when he tried to become a minority owner of the Rams.

      • William Kyriakakos

        How about this? I'll believe the Toronto Bills when I see it.

        • Jester

          Same here.

    • Jester

      Trump did not run the USFL into the ground, the courts did. Trump was the one that led the charge to sue the NFL. When the USFL filed an anti trust lawsuit against the NFL and sued the NFL, the USFL won the case, and was awarded THREE dollars in damages.

      • baginalov3r

        3 dollars? lol

  • Jeff Schlagenhauf

    Good point about Pegula liquidation, but I'm sure that Uncle Sam, New York State, and others took at least 25%. So his cash limit might be more like $1.5 billion.

    • zbubble

      He's actually a resident of state income-tax free Florida.

      • Jester

        So, what's to keep him from moving the team? He has no ties to WNY??

        • zbubble

          His ties to WNY are that he lived in Orchard Park for a while and was a former Bills and Sabres season ticket holder during that time. I'm guessing he probably has a second house somewhere in WNY, even though he's a legal resident of FL.

          • Jester

            Hey, didn't O.J. live in Orchard Park for awhile? And let;s see, James Lofton, His wife's family is from the area.

        • Dex

          Really????

        • Steve Andrew

          He use to live in wny jester and was a season ticket holder he loves the bills and owns the Sabres so do your homework before you open your mouth

          • Jester

            USED to. Tom Golisano USED to live in Rochester... He did make a donation to his wife's Alma Mater, Houghton College for a hockey rink, but he also made a large donation to Penn State.

            Now he lives in Boa Raton Florida.

        • Paul Bruhns

          Jester, I knew you couldn't help yourself... you just had to go well beyond your knowledge of the facts and keep on pontificating. All I had to do was wait for you to put your foot in your mouth. You obviously DO NOT KNOW BUFFALO...poser.

          • Jester

            I'm from Buffalo, born in Children's Hospital, went to School 30 School 81 and Lafayette HS. I used to get pizza from Mama Rizzo's and Mister Pizza when it was on Hampshire and grant. Went to the very first game in Rich Stadium, and the first regular season game in Rich Stadium, still got the coin they gave out.

          • Val James

            Well if you went to Mister Pizza who could question that? How about Mister Donut?

          • Paul Bruhns

            yes, I'm sure you are "from" Buffalo... sorry you didn't stay. It's getting better by the day. People who aren't here anymore are missing a resurgence. Pegula, by the way, is the City's choice for next Bills owner, hands down. He broke the dysfunctional lock of Sabres management and has started a new era with Tim Murray as GM. It's looking up. The area economic base is changing and there are cranes on the Buffalo skyline. Things take time, but I'm glad to be here to see it. Cheers

        • Christopher Mach

          The Pegulas live in Florida for their daughter who is a professional tennis player. His wife was born in Rochester and before he became a billionaire, Terry Pegula had season tickets for both the Bills and Sabres. Plus he is having HarborCenter built with his own money.

    • zbubble

      He's actually a resident of state income-tax free Florida.

  • Jester

    I can't believe that people are actually believing a rumor that Pegula bid 430 MILLION dollars over the Forbes value of the team right off the bat. Considering he got the Sabres for 4 million less than the value of the team.

    Where did this magic number come from? The bids have not been released, and we'll just have to wait and see what they really are.

    • Paul Bruhns

      that's the smartest thing I've heard you say on this matter. two thumbs up. zero speculation, and you don't appear to be a know it all. good post!

      • Ben

        Funny because I live in Phoenix, and they all think the anti-Bon Jovi movement is both hilarious and great. This makes me proud to be from Buffalo, not ashamed

    • Thomas Errico

      The difference between the Bills and the Sabres is that an NFL team is a printing press for money. You own a team, you make money no matter what. An NHL team has to work to turn a profit. So yeah, I can see him "over" bidding by $430 million for the Bills even though he got the Sabres for $4 million less than value. You need to compare apples to apples.

      • Jester

        So he is driving the price up himself? How does that benefit him?

    • tctctc

      How did Forbes arrive at what you think was a solid fmv? I suspect on the back of a journalist's napkin. Valuation is an inexact art/science, and a failing magazine isn't a place to look for a valuation. Forbes was recently sold to Asian investors. For much less than the probable value of the Bills.

  • Jester

    I can't believe that people are actually believing a rumor that Pegula bid 430 MILLION dollars over the Forbes value of the team right off the bat. Considering he got the Sabres for 4 million less than the value of the team.

    Where did this magic number come from? The bids have not been released, and we'll just have to wait and see what they really are.

  • Jester

    I think that ALL of these numbers are BS. Except for Trump. No one starts bidding high. The team is worth an estimated 870 million dollars, to go 430 million over the estimate is just insane, because for all you know the other bidders could have a drop out number of 950,000.

    I hear people say that Pegula has bid 1.3 Billion, and is willing to go to 1.5 Billion, really? So he is bidding against himself to drive up the cost of the team? That's smart business there.

    When you go to buy a car and the salesman asks "How much are you looking to spend?" Would you say, ""Well, I'd like to stay around $30,000.00, but I'm willing to go up to $45,000.00." Of course not, you keep your top price a secret.

    That's why I think all of these bids are BOGUS. The bank just extended the bidding process. Because there were not enough bids. Who knows maybe some Ivy League lawyers in another state are pouring over the lease right at this minute looking for a way to make it non binding. Morgan Stanley would not have extended the bidding time if they were swamped with offers.

    • BullGuy

      Do you know what was insane?? $2 billion for the LA Clippers. Welcome to the New World Order in the business of sports.

  • joenamherst

    This whole anti Bon Jovi B.S. just makes other parts of the country think even less of us then they do now. It's nothing but childish ranting. When I travel to other areas I'm ashamed tell them I'm from Buffalo. SAD.........

    • Dex

      Then move. This whole anti Bon Jovi B.S. - in your words - tells the nation just how much the people of Buffalo love their team and see its value to the collective community spirit. That you can't see that Bon Jovi is a figurehead of a group that includes two of the most powerful Toronto based conglomerates ever and serves as an Amercian shill for this group says far more about you than it does around the country.

      You should be ashamed of yourself - not of being from Buffalo. Loser.

      • unannannan

        You should be ashamed. If you stomp and cry it won't stop a damn thing. The NFL wants to go international, and here is the chance. But you could employe some people building a new stadium...that would help the economy....yup, sure would.

        • mtighe22

          Ya, and let's not complain about the boarder and allow all these people with no skill sets to enter the country. Don't complain about how the middle class is being sucked dry while we pay for medical, education, housing, food, etc. for the illegals. Ya, don't stand up for yourself, this is the "New America".

          • unannannan

            Not in Buffalo. They distract people with sports "hopes". A city counsel that is way too big. All the political representatives making 2 times what they people they represent make. you can work in the medical field or be a debt collector and chance down your neighbors. I gave up and left because it was never gonna change.

          • William Kyriakakos

            so why not just go on with your wonderful life wherever you live and just forget about Buffalo and the team?

          • unannannan

            Well, when Reed hit national news it reminded me of the bills. I didn't realize how sad all this stuff is.

            I also have some family and friends back there. I feel bad for them.

          • Mark Lands

            I feel bad for you unannannan, no one is being a cry baby, the fans and Andre Reed and Jim Kelly are just showing the country how passionate WNY is about our team and there is nothing wrong with that. You left Buffalo for whatever reasons you had, I for one am glad your gone

          • unannannan

            I am glad I'm gone too. Thanks for being glad for me.

          • x x

            if you are glad you are gone, then why have you spent hours on this board posting how glad you are gone? If I was gone from a place, I wouldn't waste a minute of time posting on stories that have no effect on me.
            By the way if the city counsel is too big then he or she should go on a diet. Or did you have coworkers hanging over your shoulder at your job again. The reason I ask is that if you had an education you would know that the word is council.

          • unannannan

            I just stay on here all day, or maybe it's the notifications that come to my email...I can't remember.
            I am sorry about my spelling and grammar. You are correct, my mistakes negate everything I posted. I guess my cheektavegas education with that ECC and UB wasn't worth what they charged for it.

            I'm sorry to have offended you so deeply.

          • Rollo Tomasei

            No you are not,it was your intention to do so

          • unannannan

            You commented about my spelling, grammar, education, connection to WNY, and why I was hanging out here so much. I think I explained most of them.

            Yes, I am sorry. I did not intend to use poor grammar and spelling.

            ( my fault, I didn't pay attention. you are commenting on something I wrote to X X. So I wasn't explaining them to you)

          • Rollo Tomasei

            I personally know people such as this.They are people who have left the area,and deep down inside miss it and would rather be here.To soothe themselves they bad mouth WNY in an attempt to give themselves validity for leaving here.No matter how much the protest to the opposite,we all know its the truth."Me thinks he doth protest to much"?(forgive me "Willy" if I paraphrased!)

          • unannannan

            You are correct. When I was in the army I missed "home". But my memory of it was different than it actually was. When I got home, and my new wife came with me, I found my self trying to justify so many things back home. I tried to explain off the racist attitudes people had, I tried to justify the high taxes and lack of good jobs. I was always defending buffalo. Eventually I stated to be honest with myself and compare buffalo to the places I had been. It was difficult for me to admit what buffalo is, and now that I am gone it is easier for me to see. I wish it would change.I want it to change, but "buffalo" doesn't want to change. I feel bad for my family and friends that are still in WNY. I don't even like to come visit anymore.

          • Rollo Tomasei

            And this "Utopia" that you live in now?.It has no flaws?.Save your sympathy and your false compassion.There are two ways to combat toxic issues.Fight against them no matter the struggle or run away from them.You appear to have left skid marks in your path of flight

          • unannannan

            I never claimed it was a utopia, it has flaws. But when I don't spend so much on taxes and utilities as I did there. Jobs pay more, the general attitude is more relaxed. It's difficult not to enjoy it.

            It's not a false compassion, it is a true compassion for the people i care about.

            I came back for the "struggle". But my god man, how long does the struggle have to go on for. ya can't wake up every morning mad at the world, and go to bed the same way. The "toxic issues" have been going on for a long time in WNY. The fight and struggle you talk about is a joke. It should not take so long to win some of these battles. Please stop with the world is against us attitude. That gets old, you guys can never admit when you have made a mistake, and that is why you can't get past your problems.

          • Rollo Tomasei

            You need to give all of this hate a rest, and that is what it is, repressed hate. If you woke up mad at the world back here,I suspect its the same where you are now, only deflected at others or other things, by your surroundings or your perception of what is different. I do not have an "us against the world attitude", and neither do most.That is your perception, to again, deflect away form your own guilt or feeling of ineptitude.We,as you say,make a lot of mistakes, and the struggle you refer to is called life. We can all get past our problems.I fear your problems are inner demons that you are denying. I also have noticed you never mention exactly were you live now?.Can't open yourself up for the scrutiny?

          • unannannan

            Thanks for the free therapy. After some of the comments to me I now realize that it was my hate that made others mad at me, my hate that made people call me a lair, my hate that made others question my honesty, or not answer honest questions. I hope my hate will keep me warm this winter.

            BTW, I live in Colorado. If you guys need and pot I can send you some...lol

          • Rollo Tomasei

            I am afraid you need more than free advice.Once again,I notice you do not mention,by name,the location of your current residence.

          • unannannan

            lol...yea, I plan on giving my address and phone number out over the internet. Maybe I should give you guys my SS# and real name too. Pot may be legal here.....but that doesn't mean I smoke it.

          • Rollo Tomasei

            Your name should not be unannannan, it should be Kevlar..because you deflect better than a bullet proof vest. No one asked for personal ID or your name,just the name of where you live now.You seem awfully resistant to scrutiny about the are you now call home ,that is so much better than WNY.

          • unannannan

            I haven't answered a single question here, why should I start now. The insults, and scrutiny of my grammar and spelling have left me crying. That is why I didn't only threw insults back, and corrected others spelling.

            I don't want to give more information than the state I live in. it has nothing to do with what you are anyone will say about it, I just don't think that is a good idea.

          • Rollo Tomasei

            You brought that on yourself with your remarks.(Nice way to play the victim by the way)You threw many of insults back, (some subtle, and some not so subtle)but,insults none the less.
            You don't want to give out any more information?.Are you paranoid as well as narcissistic?.I think you are alluding to the idea that your location will garner scrutiny,and deflecting away from all the comments it will bring.(Your behavior is pretty transparent)

          • unannannan

            But..... I am a victim here. You guys have been so mean to me. I know I was nasty, but I didn't expect y'all to be nasty back.

            I have some mental issues, it comes from my up bringing. I would appreciate if you didn't focus on those.

            I am afraid of what you guys will say about where I live. It isn't as nice as buffalo. I only work as a retail associate at a JC Penny's store...but it pays the bills.

          • Rollo Tomasei

            Well..if you walk down the middle of the street,dont be shocked if you get hit by a car...be a little nicer to people,dont make disparaging remarks,and you can only blame others for just so long about your issues and have to take your own control.
            Here endth the lesson

          • unannannan

            Thank you for being the bigger person.

          • unannannan

            you are a gentleman,

        • Dex

          You are ashamed of not being from Buffalo anymore? Or are you ashamed that the people from your home town won't accept the word of an apparent carpetbagger.

          • unannannan

            I'm ashamed that I gave up and left before things got better.

            I don't even know what a carpetbagger is.

      • Jester

        Read the Forbes article on selling the Bills

        • Rollo Tomasei

          I did,The one about the sale turning into a circus?.The writer is a pompous arse!.He dos not even have basic facts correct.He is just another "schlep" writer who is full of comments and arrogance;He dose not even know who the last NFL team was to be sold.He refers to our are as "Northwestern New York".Don't bother reading his article

        • Dex

          What's your point? That Forbes has declared that it's become a circus? Who cares????? The two biggest clowns out there - Trumpy and JoBoJo have made it that. The Pegula bid - while sure to be in the billion plus range has been dignified and all the other posers have been sent away thanks to Ralph's commitment to WNY from beyond the grave.

    • unannannan

      I don't live their anymore. I can say people here laugh and ask me to explain all this "stuff" to them.

      • baginalov3r

        bro, learn how to use spell check and grammar. nothing you type makes any sense. thxkbye

        • unannannan

          thxkbye?

        • unannannan

          Sorry about dat. I had co-workers reading over my shoulder and commenting on posts. I was distracted. I wish you could have understood some of my posts.

          • Jonathan Hall

            you had coworkers over your shoulder? is this like your minute of fame here? Does ripping on Buffalo mean that much to you? You ever think about living a life where you go out of your way to rip on a city that you have 0 affiliation with while being watched by other people. Or maybe this is their enjoyment for the week too.

          • unannannan

            Nope, I had a minute of fame when I ran from the cops at a party, when I was drunk. Other than that is been pretty boring. I still have some family and friends in WNY, and did spend the majority of my life in the area. So my affiliation is somewhere around 0.001.....that a little higher than you gave me credit for. The guys at work were reading this because they wanted to see what the people of buffalo thought about the whole thing. After reading some of the posts they were kind of shocked about the reactions.

            I have told them many times how the area is very beautiful. The night life is pretty good, there are plenty of areas to go fishing and camping, how the lake is nice during the summer...all sorts of stuff like that. But the people are stuck in a rut! The political system is corrupt because the voters put the same people in office year after year.The economic solutions they present are pathetic lies...and the people buy it. It feels like two classes exist...the elite and everyone else. But the worst part was the attitude the people have that they can not do a damn thing about it. My wife pointed it out too me so many times, but it was were I was from, so I didn't want to see it.I was so sure things would get better, and I would stick it out. But the area doesn't "want" to change. We did not want our kids to grow up like that, so we moved. After years of being gone I can see it so clearly now, and it sucks. I guess I come to "look" at it every now and then. Somewhere deep inside want to see you guys change. But friends and family tell me about what is going on and I start to think that nothing will ever change.

          • Paul Bruhns

            dude, is this your therapy session or what? we don't G-A-S what you think of Buffalo.. get over yourself! This is a comment section for some crap about the Bills sale. If you can't love the life and live the dream Bee-Low style... move along, son!

          • unannannan

            damn, I was commenting on da bills, but you guys went all buffalo on me. Calm down little paulie.

    • Steve Andrew

      You arent from Buffalo your attitude sucks please dont tell people you are from here you give us a bad name.

      • unannannan

        Buffalo attitude sucks, that's why people leave. You guys do pretty awesome giving yourselves a bad name.

        • Chris Ward

          Just another D-Bag!

          • unannannan

            Lol....from a yankeMe fan.

            Wow. Liars, cheaters,cry babies!

          • Mogilla

            Not only have you never lived in Buffalo....you probably couldn't even find it on a map. Your pathetic trolling skills need some serious work. You can start with getting your GED or some rudimentary reading and writing classes at the very least. Then maybe you can get a job and finally move out of your parent's basement so they can enjoy their golden years sans the overgrown adolescent who has morphed into the illiterate, parasitic burden that fills their days with regret. Good luck, junior.....

          • unannannan

            LOL. No one lives "in Buffalo".. Everyone is from the burbs. I can't live with my parents, my father died in the buffalo VA hospital and my mother died a couple years ago.I Blame the teachers at JFK for my lack of education.( that how it's done in b-low)

          • Rollo Tomasei

            Look into the mirror to place blame.(that is how it should be done,anywhere!)

          • unannannan

            That's not how I was taught....lol

    • B H

      [I'm ashamed tell them I'm from Buffalo. SAD.........]

      Everybody is, why should you be any different.

    • Jonathan Hall

      If your ashamed to live here then get out. Nobody is forcing you to be here. If you don't like the Bon Jovi B.S. then don't read the news, don't go on social media, and don't talk to anyone that follows sports in the area. People that rip on Bon Jovi aren't making personal attacks, they just don't want to see a key icon of the city be moved. They love the team, it's apart of the city, and it's apart of them.

    • rjsciolino

      Living in Fort Myers, Florida for the last twenty years and being born and raised in Buffalo, I can tell you, it's your problem and on one else. You have an inferiority complex my friend. Everyone from everywhere feels the same about their hometown as we do my friend...get off your complex. No one thinks less of Buffalo fans for having pride in their hometown and their team.

    • bean48

      How is being against a guy who may move one of the NFL's original teams out of the country "childish"? You SHOULD be ashamed, but only because you don't appreciate the history behind the Bills and the impact that the move would have on the region and the people.

    • david6380

      Even a trip to Cheektowaga?

  • Dom Pacile

    Why the hell don't you all leave and you won't be lying or embarrassed about our town

    • unannannan

      We know buffalo first hand. No lies!

  • timothyD9

    I was born in Toronto and have lived all my life here. The Buffalo Bills belong in Buffalo. They are one of the core teams that took the NFL from a good to a great league when it merged with the AFL. History is the core of great franchises;Toronto has it's own history and it doesn't include the NFL.
    I just spent the weekend around Buffalo and Lewiston and had a great time. Long live Buffalo and long live the Buffalo Bills!

    • Regan Flint

      I agree 100%

    • PaulR

      I can only imagine what games in Toronto would be like - boring, sterile, corporate and expensive.

      No thanks.

  • Regan Flint

    JBJ , can't afford to buy the BILLS by himself. He has to get money from his 2 richer partners. Are they just going to give it to him and then have no say where the BILLS play? I don't think so. MLSE , have been talking about buying the BILLS and moving them to Toronto for a decade in the Canadian press. What has change now???
    Those BILLS in Toronto games [that bombed] were just for fun??? MLSE , doesn't care about BILLS fans in Buffalo , the city of BUFFALO & CFL fans in Canada. Those are just the facts.

    • Jester

      Then why didn't they buy the Jaguars in 2011 when they came up for sale, if they just wanted to put a team in Toronto? Or did they have some magic crystal ball that let them know the date and time of Ralph Wilson's death?

      And yes as the MAJORITY owner he will be the one who attends the owners meetings and votes.

      • Regan Flint

        Because MLSE didn't think that they would have American Jaguars fans as part of their fan base. They are way too far from , Toronto. However , they were dumb and arrogant enough to think that American BILLS fans from Buffalo wouldn't care about their team moving to Toronto and that they would come in droves. No one said that MLSE , was smart. They should have already figured that out when the BILLS in Toronto games bombed and they lost more than $78 million on those games.
        Most people in Toronto don't want a NFL team . That is a pro NFL Toronto sports media / MLSE driven myth.

        • Paul Bruhns

          after 2020, the penalty is $25M and, from what I have heard, a $100M relocation fee paid into NFL ownership (the shield) as a service charge for market change/ revenue loss, etc. That relocation fee is typical of any franchise move to a new market. Until then, I would think the relocation penalty is severe enough that most every potential owner would keep the Bills in the Ralph/ Orchard Park/ Erie County/ NYS who all have skin in the game, and get major compensation if the lease is broken.

    • timothyD9

      Another big issue (really big) regarding Toronto is the lack of a proper football stadium. Try as they might, the Rogers Center doesn't work as a football stadium and there sure isn't the political will to hang that expense on the taxpayers. There is no Ralph Wilson or Jerry Jones in Toronto to be the moving force behind such a huge project.

  • JandM98

    Sometimes the Gods smile down on us.

  • Mike Michaels

    I read this and thought of the Bugs Bunny line "what an ignoranimus"

    • Chuck Casty

      More like "What A Maroon!!

      • david6380

        Bon Jovi's despicable!

  • larry

    I guess we can assume that whoever confirmed the Pegula bid didn't get it from the Pegula org -- otherwise breach of NDA ???

    • Jonathan Hall

      Nobody has confirmed the bid, some actually have said it was lower, but Pegula's party has never commented on the bid.

  • Reggie Elder

    All I can say is this.. Being a displaced Buffalo Billis fan(born and raised,1962),there are a few things on my mind. If the Pegula's pull this off,and do end up buying the Bills,every seat had better be filled at all the bills games.You folks in western New York had better show you up most appreciation.The saying that "you don't really appreciate something till it's gone" is sooooo true. That's how I feel about not being able to go to bills games now,Even when they have bad seasons.I have lived in the twin cities(minneapols/st paul),which is Vikings country. But,It also is a area that is very,very influnenced by The Packer nation.but,I see how much more loyal that the Packer people are than the Viking people,and It cracks me up.Their stadium is sold out ever sunday,with a over 25 year wait for season tickets.And look how much more smaller Green Bay is to Buffalo!I have learn a lot about loyalty from them,and so should the rest of the NFL. That being said,I'm sure that the Pegula's will pull this off.But,9 or 10 years does go fast,and if there is no loyalty is shown before a new stadium is here.. BYE,BYE Bills!!

    • Politician

      The Packers are owned by the people of Green Bay, something the NFL has forbidden other communities to do.

    • Ken

      For being such a displaced fan, you sure seem to care about the bills in some manner. In all honesty, since I first remember watching them and comprehending the games, all I have witnessed is losing. My sports energy goes to the sabres, if the bills can at least make a playoff appearance in 2-3 years ,then yea maybe I'll care. For now its whatever. If they leave maybe we can spend the extra dough on paving our roads, or fixing bridges in 2 months and not 8.

    • Jonathan Hall

      I'm all for loyalty and being a bills fan, (just look at my picture I'm standing on the turf at the ralph) but for someone to ask Bills fans to be "more" loyal I find ridiculous. I don't even remember the last time the Bills made the playoffs and I went to five games last year. I won't be living in Buffalo next year and still plan on flying in for three games. That's just one fan but I know plenty of other fans that do the same thing. After 14 years of no playoffs this team still sells out games unlike the fans of San Diego and Cincinnati who both made the playoffs last year. Cincinnati had to do buy one get one free playoff tickets two years ago. Jacksonville doesn't get 50,000 fans a game they tarp their entire 300 section... Should I keep going? If the Bills ever made the playoffs there wouldn't just be a sold out Ralph Wilson Stadium, there would probably be another 3-5k people tailgating and then watching the game in the parking lot. This city is begging for a winner and if Pegula gives it to them, trust me you aren't going to have to worry about watching the game in your precious recliner in the living room. (Not referring to you personally because you don't live here but you understand who I'm referring to

      • Reggie Elder

        The Packers were HORRIBLE in the 1970's and 80's. But,lambeau field was still sold out all the time! They still even went to the games,and like I said,there is a 30 year wait for season tickets.They where not always good.I'm not talking about loyal fans,like you,but i'm talking to the people there that are band wagonish.that don't go to the games.Yes,i understand,that it's so much different when you don't live there. I definetly don't have the resources to go there hardly at all,except when Im there during the holidays.But,when you live there,it's a lot different. people like you,who are very loyal,My hats off to you.But,after what I see what the Packers have done, in the bad years,of the 70's and 80's,it can be done.

    • Rob D

      The Packers have also consistently put a better product on the field than the Bills

  • Reggie Elder

    I want to reinterate and to be clear..
    It's the Packer stadium not the Vikings that's sold out every game.. No matter what!

  • Jan Reimers

    Terry Pegula is the only bidder with integrity and class.

    I can't wait until he is approved as the new owner of the Buffalo Bills.

    • Lloyd M. Jr.

      Should he own the Bills, first realization: the fans deserve a quality, competitive product... year after year. No half-baked anything. The fans are owed big, and now.

  • William Kyriakakos

    I think it's quite obvious that the trust will never sell to Bon Jovi. Also the NFL will not want a lame duck team in Buffalo for the next few years. The BN just likes to regurgitate this same old story for headlines

  • joe

    another surprise?! bon jovi and trump are both idiots.

  • mike

    This Pegula guy said all the right things when he bought the Sabre's and look at them now,,,,losers...

    • http://www.redwoodforest.com This Is A Stick

      Look at them overall now. A new hotel with 2 new rinks, retail development along the bottom right by canalside. A new locker room renovated recently. Their issue in the past was with management, not ownership.

      • B H

        Actually that worse.........makes them pampered losers.

        • http://batman-news.com D.T. O’Lalee

          So what you're saying is that because you live in a nice house that makes you a loser??? LOL! Wow! You set the bar pretty high for ignorance!

          • B H

            That's better than setting it too low, don't you think.....LOL

            What I'm saying is none of that made them a better team. Isn't that what it's suppose to be about.

          • rpm40

            Yeah, and they gave it a try for a year or two, realized it wasn't going to work, and started on the rebuild. As far as the team on the ice goes, the only thing I fault ownership for is not tanking sooner. They should have tanked in the lockout season when they were already bad and it was a shorter season to suffer through.

          • http://batman-news.com D.T. O’Lalee

            I think everyone works harder for an employer that treats them well. What Pegula did was try to start the culture change in the quickest (and cheapest) way possible which is simple renovations. I think it was a great way to show some appreciation to his players.

        • Bringing back Buffalo

          Or they just lack talent.

    • http://batman-news.com D.T. O’Lalee

      You're dumb.......Only a moron would spend years & millions of dollars on a crumbling building (Galisano & Regier), a smart business man looks at the cost of demolishing the building (a few losing seasons) and rebuilds the building from the ground up knowing that the building (or team just in case you're not catching on) will be stronger & last longer. Rome wasn't built in a day, Pegula didn't create this mess he's fixing it.

    • david6380

      As has been discussed, the damage was done before Pegula bought the team; he took too long to begin reversing the damage. It's obvious to me that he is learning quickly, probably by getting people around him who understand what it takes to be successful in the businesses he owns.

  • Austin Hood

    The Buffalo Bills have been a cash cow for Ralph Wilson for years. Now that he's gone hopefully we will get a local owner who will rebuild the Bills into a winning team, and not spare the horses.

    The fans in Western New York are some of the most loyal in the NFL and deserve a winning team. It will take some time to get the team back in shape after the new owner takes posession, but with the right management and coaching the Buffalo Bills could once again make the Superbowl.

    Finally, while both Trump and Bon Jovi might have technically violated their non-disclosure agreemnts, they didn't reveal any of the details about the team only about themselves.

    I'm sure that if they came up with a check, a bank draft or wire transfer with the right number of zeros on the end of it, all would be forgiven.

  • John Walt

    Ralph Wilson must've been a grumpy old man in his last years by not wanting to deal with the future of the team. There was interest from people to talk about buying the team that would've kept them here and made it all easier but instead he handed it all to the trust to create this circus.

    • Joshua Maine

      Who? Who was available when he was alive to sell the team to? You don't know what you're talking about.

      • John Walt

        The same people that are trying to buy the team now.

    • B H

      Old Ralphy was a good business man. He knew how to squeeze every last red cent out of the state, county, city and towns he dealt with. He is now doing it from the grave to the new owner and again to WNY taxpayers.

      • david6380

        Yes, but a businessman would be looking to the future - 10, 15, 20 years or more - to value the team.

    • david6380

      Grumpy is not how I saw him; detached and frail, a victim of time. How he handled the future of the team was his choice, but I don't think grumpiness entered into it.

  • Phil

    If one is curious to know if the Bills will depart western New York,one only needs to compare their situation with other franchises that have vacated their original locale for another city to see if there are any parallels.
    Franchises such as..Oakland Raiders,Los Angeles Rams,Cleveland Browns,Houston Oilers,Seattle Supersonics,Winnipeg Jets,Vancouver Grizzlies,Atlanta Flames/Thrashers,Quebec Nordiques,Montreal Expos.

  • mikek L

    Just as the bidding deadline, these are like the pirate code, more like "guidelines".

  • Buffalo Resurrection

    Bon Jovi has the reputation of being a very nice, polite individual and I suspect what he portrays to the public is exactly the way he is in private.
    The extreme animosity being reflected towards him is nothing short of pure ignorance.
    Personally, I don’t see the benefit of the Buffalo Bills remaining in Buffalo as they have been nothing more than a financial drain on a city and surrounding area devoid of equal employment for decades.
    More power to Bon Jovi in his request for purchasing the Buffalo Bills and I wish him all of the success in the world!

    • david6380

      Thanks for the laugh, for your analysis of Bon Jovi and for looking at the past as a predictor of the future. If your outcome proves true, it would be interesting to see if your "Buffalo Resurrection" actually occurs.

    • Rifleman

      You are a long winded buffoon. Nice try with your passive aggressive remarks, you are very obviously just trying to throw a nasty sentiment and trying to upset Bills fans. You must be a complete bore, do you notice people trying to avoid conversations with you?

    • William Kyriakakos

      Your name is Buffalo Resurrection but yet hate the Bills and want them to move?

  • doowire

    This is all bullcrap, the highest bid wins.

    Hello, Toronto.

    • William Kyriakakos

      then that would be Peula

      • doowire
        • timothyD9

          Buffalo readers may not be aware that the Sun News Network is to journalism what the Arena Football League is to football.
          Buffalo has it's own secret weapon in this discussion; the political muscle of New York State.

          • William Kyriakakos

            New York politicians are no one to mess with! nice to have them for a good cause for once

          • B H

            Shiat............da Bills are damned now.......tell me ONCE that politicians in NYS have help us.....just once......

            BYE BYE Bills...................................

        • William Kyriakakos

          just read that article, didn't see anywhere is is a forgone conclusion the Bills are going to Toronto. I just don't believe Mary Wilson would ever sell to them anyways

    • B H

      The more I think of it, you might have hit the nail on the head.....Pegula has to place a bid to look good in the The City of Nothing people's eyes. If he didn't place a bid everyone would be pissed at him and they might take it out on his hockey franchise.

      • Paul Bruhns

        interesting spin... ahhh no! it leaves too many things unexplainable... like that timely big land sale.. he bid cash, hasn't grandstanded, I think he's serious. Otherwise, he would have pulled a Donald.

  • Scare Crow

    Lawyers: wouldn't the fact that Bon Jovi's interest was factually known before the letter render that discussion moot?

  • Captain Butler

    The team is going to the Pegulas for sure. The last say in who the team is sold to is up to the Wilson family. I dont think it matters to her whether she gets 1 billion, 1.3, or 2 billion for the team. Its gonna matter who will carry on her husband's legacy and the clear choice is Terry Pegula.

  • Art Weber

    You sign a contract and then violate the contract shortly after, it shows it's amateur hour. Do we really want such unprofessional buffoons owning the Bills?

    • Lloyd M. Jr.

      If I'm an NFL owner, and info pertaining to Messrs. BonJovi and Trump's violations of a non-disclusure dictum comes to me, I would do well to remember that when the NFL teams' owners meet together.

    • larry

      Art realistically everyone violated some NDA. Tim Graham confirmd Pegula submitted bid based on high--level sources.If so, then these high-level sources violated some NDA. It appears that Tim Graham is calling the kettle black and is unaware that he is actually the pot!!! Watch out: the local "reporting" on Bills sale is totally bizarre!!!

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Vic Carucci returned to The Buffalo News as a Bills beat reporter in September. Carucci covered the Bills for 17 years before joining NFL.com as a columnist in 1999. Prior to rejoining The News, he spent three years as a senior editor for the Cleveland Browns.

Tim Graham returned to The Buffalo News in 2011 after covering the NFL for three years at ESPN and for one year at the Palm Beach Post. Before that, the Cleveland native spent seven seasons on the Buffalo Sabres beat for The News and was president of the Boxing Writers Association of America.

Jay Skurski joined The News in January 2009. The Lewiston native attended St. Francis High School before graduating from the University of South Florida.